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		<title>By: weekly review, march begins edition &#171; Exploring College Ministry blog (daily notes about our field)</title>
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		<dc:creator>weekly review, march begins edition &#171; Exploring College Ministry blog (daily notes about our field)</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] use social media tools (and gets quite a few helpful comments). Then Matt follows that up with synopsis and another VERY key question. Good [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Benson Hines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benson Hines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really not sure, although it&#039;d be profitable to examine how it&#039;s been done in other fields.

Here are some first approaches, though, off the top of my head:

1. Sharing obvious ways collaboration has helped others (including yourself)

2. Teaching the necessity of it - I think a spiritual case can be made here

3. Getting them to try it, because benefits pop out pretty quickly, as you and I know

4. Having it modeled by leaders can be helpful, too

5. Creating a felt need for it - whether because they recognize less effectiveness than they&#039;d like, or even because they notice that others are seeing effectiveness they&#039;re not (not just locally, but nationally)

6. Those who are naturally learners might need to collaborate REALLY broadly in order to help others collaborate even SOMEWHAT broadly. For example, if a Crusade leader shares with others how much he&#039;s learned from a InterVarsity guy in Florida, a collegiate church in Pennsylvania, the chaplain of Wheaton College, and a church-based college minister in Texas, those others might at least be willing to learn from another Cru leader across the state... :)

In general, few of us are very good at this kind of learning. But I have noticed that within college ministry organizations where the methodology is standardized, there seems to be less interest in learning new things (which makes sense, but it&#039;s potentially devastating). I&#039;ve even noticed this playing out as I&#039;ve encountered college ministers around the U.S.: While there are clearly Learners in every organization, ministers in some organizations are far more likely to &quot;pick my brain&quot; about what I&#039;ve seen in college ministry around the U.S..

I also think it&#039;s easier for people to collaborate once they come to see themselves as part of a true vocation / calling / profession. Most college ministers don&#039;t recognize &quot;College Ministry&quot; as a true vocation, so ideas like &quot;professional development&quot; don&#039;t necessarily connect.

But I&#039;d love your thoughts on this, too - What ways do you see could push college ministers towards being better learners / collaborators? This is part of my quest, for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really not sure, although it&#8217;d be profitable to examine how it&#8217;s been done in other fields.</p>
<p>Here are some first approaches, though, off the top of my head:</p>
<p>1. Sharing obvious ways collaboration has helped others (including yourself)</p>
<p>2. Teaching the necessity of it &#8211; I think a spiritual case can be made here</p>
<p>3. Getting them to try it, because benefits pop out pretty quickly, as you and I know</p>
<p>4. Having it modeled by leaders can be helpful, too</p>
<p>5. Creating a felt need for it &#8211; whether because they recognize less effectiveness than they&#8217;d like, or even because they notice that others are seeing effectiveness they&#8217;re not (not just locally, but nationally)</p>
<p>6. Those who are naturally learners might need to collaborate REALLY broadly in order to help others collaborate even SOMEWHAT broadly. For example, if a Crusade leader shares with others how much he&#8217;s learned from a InterVarsity guy in Florida, a collegiate church in Pennsylvania, the chaplain of Wheaton College, and a church-based college minister in Texas, those others might at least be willing to learn from another Cru leader across the state&#8230; <img src='http://www.mattmccomas.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In general, few of us are very good at this kind of learning. But I have noticed that within college ministry organizations where the methodology is standardized, there seems to be less interest in learning new things (which makes sense, but it&#8217;s potentially devastating). I&#8217;ve even noticed this playing out as I&#8217;ve encountered college ministers around the U.S.: While there are clearly Learners in every organization, ministers in some organizations are far more likely to &#8220;pick my brain&#8221; about what I&#8217;ve seen in college ministry around the U.S..</p>
<p>I also think it&#8217;s easier for people to collaborate once they come to see themselves as part of a true vocation / calling / profession. Most college ministers don&#8217;t recognize &#8220;College Ministry&#8221; as a true vocation, so ideas like &#8220;professional development&#8221; don&#8217;t necessarily connect.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d love your thoughts on this, too &#8211; What ways do you see could push college ministers towards being better learners / collaborators? This is part of my quest, for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McComas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt McComas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the question in my mind is what can I do to help change this culture amongst college ministry staff people?

I know it&#039;s not a completely black and white issue, but I think it&#039;s real and I&#039;m wondering how to push us toward a learning/collaborating culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the question in my mind is what can I do to help change this culture amongst college ministry staff people?</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s not a completely black and white issue, but I think it&#8217;s real and I&#8217;m wondering how to push us toward a learning/collaborating culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Benson Hines</title>
		<link>http://www.mattmccomas.com/why-we-dont-use-web-2-0-tools-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Benson Hines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is most certainly the rub. I think I commented along those lines in your Collaboration post recently, but it&#039;s what I keep running into - As college ministers, we (as a group) haven&#039;t caught the vision for professional development as a spiritual discipline.

Bummer.

You&#039;re right - blogs (along with books and seminars and podcasts and more) can be great platforms for helping learning take place. But because they aren&#039;t really &quot;consumed&quot; widely by those in our field, it&#039;s tough to see them as &quot;profitable,&quot; either in expense or time or effort. So that&#039;s another reason people don&#039;t blog (or publish or whatever) - because they don&#039;t get enough hits (or comments or purchases or listens or whatever).

Chicken and egg. Frustrating. Totally hinders the development of our field. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is most certainly the rub. I think I commented along those lines in your Collaboration post recently, but it&#8217;s what I keep running into &#8211; As college ministers, we (as a group) haven&#8217;t caught the vision for professional development as a spiritual discipline.</p>
<p>Bummer.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right &#8211; blogs (along with books and seminars and podcasts and more) can be great platforms for helping learning take place. But because they aren&#8217;t really &#8220;consumed&#8221; widely by those in our field, it&#8217;s tough to see them as &#8220;profitable,&#8221; either in expense or time or effort. So that&#8217;s another reason people don&#8217;t blog (or publish or whatever) &#8211; because they don&#8217;t get enough hits (or comments or purchases or listens or whatever).</p>
<p>Chicken and egg. Frustrating. Totally hinders the development of our field. <img src='http://www.mattmccomas.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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